Thread Subject: .m code to .exe | sim func. not working

Hi I'm doing a Voice Rec project using neural networks.
Which is where the 'sim' function comes in (Neural Network
Toolbox).
When I convert the .m files to .exe, everything else except
the 'sim' function is working.
Any idea what I can do differently?

is it this
http://www.mathworks.com/support/solutions/data/1-15YVJB.html

or

http://www.mathworks.com/access/helpdesk/help/toolbox/compiler/index.html?/access/helpdesk/help/toolbox/compiler/bqrvu87-6.html&http://www.mathworks.com/access/helpdesk/help/toolbox/compiler/bq6ae_n-1.html

either way, you cannot compile SIM (the NN one).

If the link is mangled, go to the mathworks site, search for:
compiler Unsupported Functions sim

look for a link on 'Unsupported Functions'


On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:10:17 -0400, Blueblood Kingroyale
<edproject.cec@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi I'm doing a Voice Rec project using neural networks.
> Which is where the 'sim' function comes in (Neural Network
> Toolbox).
> When I convert the .m files to .exe, everything else except
> the 'sim' function is working.
> Any idea what I can do differently?

Hey thanks Ashish,
the link(http://www.mathworks.com/support/solutions/data/1-
15YVJB.html) you sent did help me to identify the problem
in a better way but I'm yet to find a solution.

'sim' function in the Neural Network toolbox is in the
list of unsupported functions (that can't be converted to
stand alone by mcc) somebody please explain how
can 'pragma'; that is %#function; be used to solve this
problem.

Its not a 'problem', I guess its a design(ed) issue :)

AFAIK, you cannot compile a NN which is expected to be trained outside
MATLAB, though you
can use a NN with prior weights in your exe.


On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 04:42:01 -0400, Blueblood Kingroyale
<edproject.cec@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey thanks Ashish,
> the link(http://www.mathworks.com/support/solutions/data/1-
> 15YVJB.html) you sent did help me to identify the problem
> in a better way but I'm yet to find a solution.
>
> 'sim' function in the Neural Network toolbox is in the
> list of unsupported functions (that can't be converted to
> stand alone by mcc) somebody please explain how
> can 'pragma'; that is %#function; be used to solve this
> problem.

Hi Ashish, really do appreciate your inputs here.
So maybe I should get used to the hard fact of life that I
cant have 'sim' and the .exe at the same time. Now check
this - I am using sim to train the network before I use it.
But to get the output of the Neural Network during run time
(upon presenting a dynamic input) I will need sim again,
won't I ? Or is there any other way to use a pre-trained
Neural Network?

gah. sorry for the confusion.

You should be able to use sim, gensim is the one not supported for
deployment (EXE) I guess.

so you were right, have to use function pragma,

The earlier link mentions:
%#function network

Just add this line on top of your M-file, let us know if it works.
or try
%#nnet/sim

or ..keep trying something :D

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:30:22 -0400, Blueblood Kingroyale
<edproject.cec@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Ashish, really do appreciate your inputs here.
> So maybe I should get used to the hard fact of life that I
> cant have 'sim' and the .exe at the same time. Now check
> this - I am using sim to train the network before I use it.
> But to get the output of the Neural Network during run time
> (upon presenting a dynamic input) I will need sim again,
> won't I ? Or is there any other way to use a pre-trained
> Neural Network?

the sim in the list of unsupported function might be referring to the
simulink 'sim' command.

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:46:30 -0400, Ashish Uthama <ashishu@ece.ubc.ca>
wrote:

> gah. sorry for the confusion.
>
> You should be able to use sim, gensim is the one not supported for
> deployment (EXE) I guess.
>
> so you were right, have to use function pragma,
>
> The earlier link mentions:
> %#function network
>
> Just add this line on top of your M-file, let us know if it works.
> or try
> %#nnet/sim
>
> or ..keep trying something :D
>
> On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:30:22 -0400, Blueblood Kingroyale
> <edproject.cec@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ashish, really do appreciate your inputs here.
>> So maybe I should get used to the hard fact of life that I
>> cant have 'sim' and the .exe at the same time. Now check
>> this - I am using sim to train the network before I use it.
>> But to get the output of the Neural Network during run time
>> (upon presenting a dynamic input) I will need sim again,
>> won't I ? Or is there any other way to use a pre-trained
>> Neural Network?
>

Hi Ashish,

Thanks a lot for your help the %#function network thing
worked out great. We were able to create the .exe after
adding that line to our code.

Another small little doubt: can we have Windows API calls
from within MATLAB itself? Any info on that would be
really welcome. Gracias once again.

Blueblood.

"Blueblood Kingroyale" <edproject.cec@gmail.com> wrote in
message <fraha1$ogg$1@fred.mathworks.com>...
> Hi Ashish,
>
> Thanks a lot for your help the %#function network thing
> worked out great. We were able to create the .exe after
> adding that line to our code.
>
> Another small little doubt: can we have Windows API calls
> from within MATLAB itself? Any info on that would be
> really welcome. Gracias once again.
>
> Blueblood.
Hey,
i am also facing the same problem..
I am not able to follow the postings here for ur query ..
If u have understood, can u plz write a sample program and
post it.
From so many days i am struggling for this ... Kindly post it.

Thanks,
Ashwini
    

Hi Ashwini,

Dont know exactly what your looking for. Our prob was that
the sim function (NN Toolbox) is unsupported and cant be
used in an m file that is to be converted to a standalone
(exe).
All I did was add the line "%#function network" at the top
of the code in that m file.
That solved the problem.
Hope this helps.

Blueblood

"Blueblood Kingroyale" <edproject.cec@gmail.com> wrote in
message <frd3cu$duf$1@fred.mathworks.com>...
> Hi Ashwini,
>
> Dont know exactly what your looking for. Our prob was that
> the sim function (NN Toolbox) is unsupported and cant be
> used in an m file that is to be converted to a standalone
> (exe).
> All I did was add the line "%#function network" at the top
> of the code in that m file.
> That solved the problem.
> Hope this helps.
>
> Blueblood

Hi,
Let me explain u about my requirement, i have a m-file and
simulink model. i am passing some parameters to simulink
model using assignin command and want to run the model from
the m-file using sim command and want to see the result in
base workspace. Have a look at the following code, it may
give some idea:

function m_file
a = 12; b = 23;
assignin('base','a',a);
assignin('base','b',b);
sim('sim_mdl');
evalin('base','a');
evalin('base','b');

simout;
timeout;

sim_mdl codel contains 2 constant blocks for which a and b
parameters are assigned and after some calculation say
addition, the sum has to be saved to workspace using 'To
Workspace' block.

can u pls suggest me any way to make it standalone.

Thanks a lot for ur reply,
Regards,
Ashwini

 

clarification based on my understanding:

sim (Simulink) command cannot be compiled.

sim (neural network) command can be compiled. However, to make sure that=
  =

the compiler
undertands that we are using the NN toolbox command and not the Simulink=
  =

command we use
the compiler directive.


The pragma directive is not something which converts a non-compilable =

function to a compilable one.


On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 04:36:02 -0400, Ashwini Deshpande =

<vd.ashwini@mathworks.com> wrote:

> "Blueblood Kingroyale" <edproject.cec@gmail.com> wrote in
> message <frd3cu$duf$1@fred.mathworks.com>...
>> Hi Ashwini,
>>
>> Dont know exactly what your looking for. Our prob was that
>> the sim function (NN Toolbox) is unsupported and cant be
>> used in an m file that is to be converted to a standalone
>> (exe).
>> All I did was add the line "%#function network" at the top
>> of the code in that m file.
>> That solved the problem.
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Blueblood
>
> Hi,
> Let me explain u about my requirement, i have a m-file and
> simulink model. i am passing some parameters to simulink
> model using assignin command and want to run the model from
> the m-file using sim command and want to see the result in
> base workspace. Have a look at the following code, it may
> give some idea:
>
> function m_file
> a =3D 12; b =3D 23;
> assignin('base','a',a);
> assignin('base','b',b);
> sim('sim_mdl');
> evalin('base','a');
> evalin('base','b');
>
> simout;
> timeout;
>
> sim_mdl codel contains 2 constant blocks for which a and b
> parameters are assigned and after some calculation say
> addition, the sum has to be saved to workspace using 'To
> Workspace' block.
>
> can u pls suggest me any way to make it standalone.
>
> Thanks a lot for ur reply,
> Regards,
> Ashwini
>
>